This UnHerd video presents a debate between John Mearsheimer and Yoram Hazony regarding the Israel-Iran conflict. The discussion analyzes the motivations behind Israel's actions, the potential for Iran to develop nuclear weapons, and the role of the United States in the conflict. The debate aims to provide viewers with different perspectives on the situation and its implications.
Israel's Goals: Mearsheimer believes Israel's primary goal is to eliminate Iran's nuclear capabilities, potentially including regime change. Hazony asserts that Israel aims to dismantle Iran's nuclear program and neutralize its proxies, viewing Iran as an existential threat.
Iran's Nuclear Ambitions: Mearsheimer argues that preventing Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons is difficult, even impossible, while acknowledging Israel's strategic concerns. Hazony believes the elimination of Iran's nuclear program is achievable.
US Involvement: Mearsheimer contends that the US should not intervene militarily and that such involvement would be detrimental to American interests. He suggests that the US should focus on containing China. Hazony suggests that US support for regional allies, allowing them to handle security threats, is a better approach than direct US intervention.
Realism vs. National Conservatism: The debate highlights contrasting approaches to foreign policy: Mearsheimer's realist perspective emphasizes national self-interest, while Hazony's national conservatism advocates for a similar approach but also for the formation of regional alliances to counter threats.
Potential Outcomes: Both speakers foresee a prolonged conflict unless the US intervenes. Mearsheimer highlights potential negative consequences, like the disruption of oil supplies. Hazony suggests that a regional security architecture, potentially involving Israel and Arab states, could ultimately lead to greater stability.