About this video

• Video Title: Psychosophy, Enneagram and the state of correlations
• Channel: Rust
• Speakers: Rust (and audience participation)
• Duration: 1:51:05

Overview

This video is a live stream where the host, Rust, discusses various aspects of personality typing systems, primarily focusing on Enneagram and Psychosophy. He addresses audience questions about type correlations, the manifestation of traits, and the validity of different typing methods, while also sharing personal anecdotes about his health and lifestyle choices.

Key takeaways

• Typology Systems and Correlations: The discussion emphasizes that while correlations between different typing systems (like Enneagram and Psychosophy) exist, they can be misleading and should be approached with caution. The speaker advocates for understanding the "essence" of a type rather than relying solely on superficial traits.
• Health and Lifestyle: The speaker shares personal struggles with unhealthy eating habits, the realization of high blood pressure, and the commitment to a healthier diet, highlighting the importance of moderation and making healthy food taste good.
• Nuance in Typing: The video stresses that personality types are not rigid blueprints. Manifestations can vary greatly due to individual experiences, cultural backgrounds, and temperaments. Overly specific or simplified trait-based typing can lead to misinterpretations.
• Volition in Psychosophy: A significant portion of the discussion revolves around the concept of volition in Psychosophy, particularly for Enneagram type 8. The speaker clarifies that volition is not solely about imposing one's will but involves a more complex interplay with other functions and motivations.
• Debunking Typing Myths: The speaker addresses common misconceptions, such as the idea that past trauma (like bullying) justifies a different type or that certain traits are exclusive to specific placements. He argues that past experiences shape, but do not fundamentally change, one's core type.

The video discusses the complex relationship between different typology systems, like the Enneagram and Psychosophy, and their correlations. The speaker expresses a cautious stance, warning that these correlations can be "misguiding" and difficult to make work effectively.

Instead of focusing on rigid trait structures, the speaker advocates for a deeper understanding of the "essence" of a type. This involves looking beyond superficial characteristics and considering the core motivations and needs of an individual. The aim is to move away from simplistic, trait-based typing towards a more nuanced appreciation of how these types manifest in diverse ways, influenced by various life experiences and individual differences.

The discussion on volition in Psychosophy, particularly concerning Enneagram type 8, covers several detailed points:

• Volition is Not Solely About Imposing Will: The speaker clarifies that volition, especially in Psychosophy, is more nuanced than simply a desire to impose one's will. It's not just about being dominant or aggressive.
• Complexity of Volition Placement: The discussion touches upon how volition manifests differently based on its placement within a type's structure. For example, an 8th core type might not always be 1st volition (1V). While 1V, 2V, and 3V are mentioned as possibilities for 8s, 4th volition (4V) is presented as the least likely placement for an 8 core.
• Distinguishing Volition from Other Traits: The speaker emphasizes that certain behaviors, often associated with volition, can stem from other aspects of personality. For instance, a strong physical presence or a tendency to react impulsively doesn't automatically equate to 1st volition (1V).
• The Role of the First Placement: It's suggested that when volition is shaky (like in 3V), it tends to be overcompensated by a confident first placement. This dominant first function then becomes a key indicator.
• Examples and Counter-examples:
  • Stalin: Initially presented as a potential example of 3V due to his paranoia and violent reactions, the speaker later argues that Stalin's actions were driven by a desire for power and control, making him a strong candidate for 1V. The text mentions that the author of the theory himself used Stalin as an example of 3V, but the speaker disputes this based on a holistic understanding of the theory and Stalin's motivations.
  • Napoleon: Mentioned as being defined by his ambition and grand self-image, contrasting with Stalin's motivations.
  • Physical Dominance vs. 1V: The speaker explains that while an SP8 might physically dominate or intimidate others, this doesn't automatically make them 1V. A true 1V is characterized by self-control, adherence to principles, and a higher purpose, rather than a reaction to threats or an impulsive display of force.
  • Self-Control as a Key Factor: The defining characteristic of 1V is presented as self-control and an internal standard of identity, not necessarily outward aggression or dominance.
• Misinterpretations of 3V: The speaker corrects the common misconception that 3V is solely characterized by insecurity. Examples like Napoleon and Picasso, who might be considered 3V, were driven by strong visions and ambitions, not just insecurity. The overreaction to authority or unnecessary opposition is highlighted as a more accurate indicator of 3V.
• Manifestation Varies: The way volition manifests can differ. The speaker notes that while the archetype might be clear, individuals can present with different volition placements, and one should not rigidly adhere to solely one interpretation. For example, someone typed as 3V might not appear overtly insecure.
• Author's Examples vs. Interpretation: The speaker acknowledges that the author of the theory provided examples, but argues that a deeper understanding and personal interpretation are necessary, as the author's own typings and descriptions can sometimes be contradictory or absolute.